What will it take for Russia and Ukraine to achieve lasting peace?

A Russian drone strike hit Ukraine's Sumy region just hours after the first direct talks in three years. The warring sides agreed to a prisoners exchange in those talks. But will it lead to a lasting ceasefire? And can the two sides narrow the gap between them? In this episode: Peter Zalmayev, Executive Director, Eurasia Democracy Initiative. Pavel Felgenhauer, Independent Defense and Russian Foreign Policy Analyst. Anatol Lieven, Director, Eurasia Program, Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft. Host: Dareen Abughaida Connect with us: @AJEPodcasts on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook